Egg Candling, incubating, Hatching with photos step by step as it happens

First off: If you're here looking for particular information about your egg; hit CTRL + F This should bring up the "Find" search. Or skim through. This covers shadows, broken yolks, stages of development, what to do or not do. I'm new to this as well I'm sharing my experience with others as I experience it because it's likely my questions will be your questions. 

                                                 What I used to make an incubator
I'll try to make this simple. I bought a fish tank, some sand and a light. Sorry I don't remember the watts or any of that info. It's for reptiles and it's red. The girl at the store told me I could put the light right on top of the cage cover (it's a screen cover) DON'T do that!!! The eggs got WAY too hot!!! Lesson learned. I now have the light fixated about 2 feet above the eggs. I'm sure you can make this work however you see fit as long as the eggs stay warm. I have about 3 inches of sand so I dig the eggs in the sand and cover them with the sand. I also spray water on the walls and on the sand where the eggs aren't laying to help the humidity. I do this about twice a day. I turn my eggs 3-4 times a day, but there have been days I didn't turn them at all. I like to spray the actual eggs about once a day and lightly cover them with sand. I sprayed too much water once and the sand being too wet the eggs were not being kept warm. DON'T do that! :)  NO, I DON'T CHECK THE TEMPERATURE OR HUMIDITY LEVELS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THESE EGGS HATCH JUST FINE IN THE WILD AND I'M PRETTY SURE MY HOUSE HAS A MORE CONSISTENT ENVIRONMENT. I read all these things about people doing this.. I suppose that's for hardcore hatchers. I'm just a girl trying to hatch some eggs I found at a pond. (I don't suggest taking eggs from anywhere. I know here it's illegal but if I don't take them the kids do and break them. At least I'm TRYING to hatch them and they will be released back at the pond of which they came from)

Eggs 1-5 are of various unknown ages, and unknown types. some look like chicken eggs, others are duck eggs, I'm hoping I have at least one Muskovy duck egg but who knows. Why is this important to know? Because I'm using various types of eggs and the same incubation for all of them.

Things I've learned so far. Blood rings aren't always bad! Spots aren't always bad! What IS bad is no development. If you're looking at your eggs and nothing is changing, it's probably a bad egg. I keep all my "bad" eggs just in case and a few have surprised me. Here's how this has gone.

Egg 1:

Egg one day first check-in

*First day of check-in: There's a yolk, moves freely, and there's a "spot" with-in the yolk. The air-sack was visible but had an orange ring forming around it. (it's not always visible when the eggs are new.) Looked good to me.

Egg 1: Second day of Check-in 

*Second check- in TWO days later: I had a hard time describing what I saw. The yolk was significantly larger, taking up about half of the egg.  The "Spot" was now gone but I could see something in there. I also saw what might be a blood ring forming. The air-sack had not grown either yet the ring was gone.  I got a bit worried.

Just an extra pic

* Third check-in TWO days later: Something was a bit more visible. The blood ring no longer looks like a blood ring, more like veins now. Many more red lines. Good things I didn't throw him out :) (Will post pics later)

Apparently to a noob like me; veins can be mistaken for blood rings. Don't throw eggs out until you are SURE it's no good and no development is happening. As long as there is change going on, keep it.

Egg 2:
*First Check-in: Looked much like egg one. The "Spot" was smaller

Egg 2: First Check See the "spot"

*Second check-in TWO days later: The yolk was larger and I could see a blood ring forming. I was quite sad. But we kept him. (the blood ring is hard to see in the photo)

* Third check-in TWO days later: Blood ring still there with no further development. I'm about 90% sure this egg is no good. But we keep him anyway. (photos soon to come)

Egg 3:
*First day of check-in: I thought this was an odd egg. I saw a little black dot, or shadow or something in the egg near the air-sack. Possibly a "spot" as well but really couldn't say for sure.
*Second check-in TWO days later: It had a blood ring :/

Egg 3 Good view of a blood ring

*Third Check-in TWO days later: Looked like egg 2 and no different than two days ago :( but we keep him! (Photos soon to come)

Egg 4:
*First day of Check-in: Ok this egg was even more strange than the previous. It had what appeared to be a "light" or something "white" inside the egg. It moved around as I moved the egg. I could also see a possible "Spot" growing next to it

Egg 4 (First) Wish I could get a pic of the "light"

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*second day of check-in TWO days later: The yolk had limited movement, and was now very large. The "spot" and the "light" were now gone and the air sack had doubled in size. The yolk also appeared to be broken.. or leaking.

Egg 4 second check-in

*Third Check-in TWO days later: The egg looked just the same. The yolk still appeared to be broken.

(OK I'm sure you get it by now; I check the eggs every two days)

Egg 5:
*First Check-in: Something  was moving around in there.

Egg 5 First check-in

*Second: The yolk appeared to be broke. I still don't know what to make of this or how it happens..

Egg 5 second check-in

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*Third: The egg looked different more like a new egg (new eggs have light colored yolks and aren't very easy to see. Older eggs have darker yolks and you can better see things growing in it) the yolk still appeared to be broken. I'm going to assume the yolk is now diluted with the egg white and thus it is lighter in color looking more new than old. We keep him anyway.

Egg 6:
 This is day ONE for this egg.
*First Check in: The yolk had limited movement. The other would move when you moved the egg, this one would move; just not as much.I also couldn't find an air sack. If this sounds familiar you might have a brand new egg on your hands.

Egg 6

*Second (now 3 days old) The air sack is now visible. Small "spot" seems to be forming but it's very hard to see. 

Egg 6

*Third (5 days old) The dot is now looking more like a spider. I see possible veins. YAY

Egg 7
This is also day ONE for this egg
*First: I know it's weird to say but I could see a shadow as I moved the egg around. Other than that, looked like a normal first dayer

Egg 7

*Second: (now 3 days old) Air sac has grown and it also now has a "spot"

Egg 7 and it's big "spot"

*Third: (Now 5 days old) The dot is now a "spider" What this looks like is a giant circle with a smaller circle with-in and in the middle is a "spider" with veins.YAY
Now I really liked this egg. It went from having the normal light yolk to this tightly formed, very round, very dark yolk. I wasn't sure if that was good or bad since my other eggs went from yolk to giant oval yolk.  But, I do suppose I just missed that tightly formed yolk due to the unknown age of the other. 

Egg 8
I didnt' make a note of it, but I believe this one is also day 1
*First: The yolk had limited movement. Air sack was hard to see, and this egg is covered with spots! It also had a stronger smell than the other. Questionable egg!! The last thing I want is a rotten egg stinking up my house.

*Second: (now 3 day old) no sign of change

*Third (now 5 days old) Not much has changed. I can see something  but looks like it's a yolker.

Egg 9
This egg is one day old and new to the family of eggs
*First Check: Looks normal except the air sack MOVES! It appeared loose and possibly broken.  Something near the air sac also moves. This could be bad!
*Second: (now 3 days old) This egg now looks like egg 7 used to. Round Dark Yolk. When it looks like this I always think "Yolker" because the yolk seems so small compared to the egg. Keep these for sure. I forgot to look at the air sack. I don't keep my notes with me when I look at the eggs; I like to have "fresh" eyes. I don't want influence telling me to look for this or that. I see what I see and write it down. OK I got up and looked the air sac looks normal now. ***Lesson*** don't throw an egg out just because the air sac looks broken.

Eggs 10,11,12
One day old
*First Check: They all look pretty much the same. Not much to see on the first day.
*Second:(3 days old) They all 3 look the same. Not much difference.

Dang two days took a long time to get here :p
Today is Feb. 27th 2012

So my camera broke and I was not able to get new pictures. I now have a new camera and will be taking pictures!!! Anyway all but egg 7 didn't make it. Egg 7 however is doing GREAT! The spider turned into veins and then into a bird. We are now on day 17 for the little guy. Yesterday I could see through the egg pretty good. I could watch him move. It's been amazing watching him grow. Today... he's quite dark and taking up a lot of room in there. From this morning to now (about 8 hours later) the egg changed a lot inside. He moves around a lot.

As for any other changes I can remember. Egg 1, the one I thought for sure was going to make it, did not. It got darker and darker, then it grew a red spot. Apparently it was a blood spot which is kind of like a blood ring. The blood spot eventually turned black and I had to throw him out. A couple other eggs had the same thing.

I also have two new eggs. They are large, I can only assume to be duck eggs. One was almost twice the size of the other so I thought perhaps one was a duck egg and one was a goose egg; even though they were found in the same nest. They are now 4 days old. Unfortunately they look similar to all the other eggs so I'm not getting my hopes up. The yolks have become quite dark and large with a smaller "spot" with in the yolk area. BUT some good news!!!! I'm actually lying about my hopes being up because I'm REALLY hoping the larger one hatches! Turns out there are TWO yolks in there! That's right, I've got twins. :D

Also I found a rather small egg today. Just sittin out in the open, didn't appear to be even near a nest. "I lay where I sit and I sit where I lay." Many eggs I"m sure get lost in the water because of this. The egg was cold and all alone :( but we will see how he goes over the next few days. This egg is by far the smallest egg I've found here. I"m actually excited to see what comes out if it makes it.
Ok well I'm off to take some pictures.

These are egg 7 :) day 18

"Big Egg" Day 5

this is my twin egg

Egg 2: Second check in(THIS DOESN'T BELONG HERE!)

Giant egg with twins! day 5

ahh these two got stuck together and I'm not sure how to separate them :/

This is "itty" day 2

Giant egg with twin, big egg, egg 7, and itty.

FEB 9TH 1:00am

SO Giant egg appears to have a "spider" in BOTH yolks! I'm so excited but it's so faint and hard to see I can not confirm I can only suspect that's what I"m looking at.

Lesson: Duck eggs by day 5 or 6 you should see the "spider" forming.

Big egg :/ looks like it's starting to form a blood ring. But we will see what happen.

Egg 7 is making it very difficult to see. Moves around a lot

More to come in 2 days. Please feel free to ask any questions.

Itty is doing ok I guess..... There's a "spot" growing so maybe that's agood sign. I wasn't expecting anything due to the conditions I found the egg in. Cold, Alone, and no where near a nest.

Eric Sandoval

People die everyday. It's a fact of life. Something I personally don't have to deal with very often.

It's very common for people to glorify someone after they have passed away. People tend to forget all the bad things that person did. As it turns out, he deserves this. He really was a good person.... No need to sugar coat his existence; he was made of sugar.


With that said, I'd like to tell you about him and what he was to me. His name was Eric Sandoval. I met him as "Aryk" about 13 years ago. I've adored Aryk since the day I met him. I think he had this effect on everyone, especially girls. Our relationship was mostly long distance. When I was able to see him it was always just the two of us. It's not like we live in a small town or anything, but Aryk was friends with everyone. All the people I knew, he knew. After all, he was charismatic, charming, funny, clever & unique, he was simply addictive. But I don't recall ever socializing as a "group." So, I suppose it shouldn't be a surprise to me that the person who emailed me, to inform me of his passing, asked who I was. I sadly responded with a "I'm no one." But this isn't true.

Aryk and I had a special relationship. We always have. He was important to me and I was important to him. I saw how wonderful he was the day we met. I thought about him constantly for a long time. I would tell my mom "I'm gonna marry him someday." I was 14. I'm 27 now and we never got married. Oddly, we had talked about it about four months ago. We carried on a long conversation about moving in together and starting a new life with each other and leaving all the garbage of our pasts behind us. That conversation ended with "That would be nice wouldn't it? Too bad it's unrealistic." And that was the last time I spoke to him. Aryk and I have danced for 13 years. We cared for each other, we loved each other.... He had a way of making you feel special. I know for a fact I wasn't the only person he dreamed with. If Eric could have made 1000 of himself he would have; just to have the capability of experiencing life 1000 different ways, places, and with 1000 different people.

His heart was so big; he was capable of loving many and making many special. This wasn't an act. There was room for you to have a special place in his heart.... and in return he nestled in to his own special spot in yours. I can't think of anyone who was "no one" to him. I can think of someone who was held above everyone else. He loved her unconditionally, endlessly, and thought the world of her. That was his mother. Eric was very family oriented. Nothing was more important to him than his family. But, I don't need to point that out; I think he showed that quite well all on his own.

 He laughed a laugh you couldn't forget the sound of if you tried. He had a smile that was contagious. He changed my life. I'm so glad I was able to tell him that. I think he changed a lot of lives. I loved his unique view on things. He thrived because he was different. He spread his happiness as if it were air born. I've never met anyone like him.

I named my daughter Raevyn. The spelling of her name would have been different if I had never met Aryk. I'm glad I'll always have that as a constant reminder of him. He will always be remembered, cherished, loved, and missed by myself and so many others.... quite possibly everyone who was lucky enough to know him.


So, I'm stealing this last part. It was in the memorial of another friend of mine, also named "Erick." I can't help but include it because it fits so well.


You are not given the people you want. You are given the people you need; To love you, To hurt you, To make you laugh & To make you cry, To teach you, To guide you & leave you.  You are given the people who will mold you into the person you were meant to be.  





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Further thoughts on the Mormons and the Satanic Idea

I've been thinking about everything. If you missed my previous post you can find it here:

http://chelesblogalwayssomethingnew.blogspot.com/2012/01/mormon-bible-and-what-i-see.html 



I'm by no means saying that Mormons are active and knowingly satantic, or anything of the sort. What I'm saying is, I find it much more plausible that Joseph Smith was inspired by Satan rather than Jesus or God. Do current Mormonists believe this? Of course not! Are the Elders of the church that come knocking on your door secretly working for Satan? No! But they believe that Joseph Smith was true and that his teachings were honest. This is where I believe they are wrong. I believe J.S. has deceived thousands of people and he was the one who is in the wrong. Momonists today are innocent bystanders. They truly believe what they teach and what they do is right and in accordance to Gods will.

 God, according to the Bible, commands that we do not have sexual relations outside of marriage. That we do not have impure thoughts about others especially someone who belongs to someone else. Yet, Joseph Smith took other mens wives. He even went as far as concealing marriages and relationships... if it is Godly, why hide it? If it was Godly he would have been honest. Even if the Bom is true, and Joseph Smith was in the right; I couldn't bring myself to worship a God that brings pain to my family. "- Joseph Smith's personal secretary records that on May 22nd, 1843, Smith's first wife Emma found Joseph and Eliza Partridge secluded in an upstairs bedroom at the Smith home. Emma was devastated.
William Clayton's journal entry for 23 May (see Smith, 105-106)" (http://www.i4m.com/think/history/joseph_smith_sex.htm)


"Emma was devastated".....  This doesn't sound Godly at all. God wants us to love not hurt. I can't imagine all the pain he caused to the husbands of these women, to his first wife and quite possibly his other wives. I'll be honest, I've cheated on my husband, my husbands cheated on me. We've been through some rough times. There was even a time when I would say "Monogamy is not natural to humans so why do we do it?" and I struggled with being married and the rules of marriage. In the end I learned that we do it out of love. Natural or not we do it because we care more about the other person than we do our own instincts and selfish needs. I saw first hand what this behavior can do to a family. I saw how much I hurt my husband and felt the pain of it being done to me. I saw the sadness and pain in my daughters eyes as she watched her family fall apart, and I saw the confusion and emptiness in her life because her dad wasn't living at home anymore. Why would God command these hurtful things to happen? Did Joseph Smith stay Married to all of his wives? Did his first wife stay by his side? I don't know.... Even if she did I can't see her being happy while she did it. This makes me feel sad for them. I feel sad for all of them. 


As it turns out, my husband was right about it being important to include the fact that J.S. used a crystal ball to speak to God. Celtic Druids, seers, wizards, sorcerers, psychics, gypsies, fortune tellers, stage magicians, etc. used Crystal balls. These practices have widely been considered ungodly and even evil throughout the ages; yet Joseph Smith used this method. 


^{Antichrist is thought to be deceitful and not truthful; he will be a false prophet, he will make himself as (or like) the son of God and claim himself as King. (Early Christians & the Antichrist wiki) Didn't I just learn that J.S was deceitful? He claims to be a prophet? To top it off did he not believe that we will ultimate become Gods? Oo God=King? that's an opinion to make for yourself; But I see high resemblance here.} 

 Polycarp warned the Philippians that anyone who  preached false doctrine was an antichrist. The Mormons have piles and piles of doctrine made to their own beliefs. False doctrine? This seems to be the big question.
Paul writes that this Man of Sin will possess a number of characteristics. These include "sitting in the temple",(Don't Mormons have temples?) opposing himself against anything that is worshiped, claiming divine authority, (Wouldn't that be the same as their teachings of becoming Gods?) working all kinds of counterfeit miracles and signs, (Isn't that what J.S. was doing with his Crystal ball?) and doing all kinds of evil. Paul notes that "the mystery of lawlessness" (though not the Man of Sin himself) was working in secret already during his day and will continue to function until being destroyed on the Last Day. His identity is to be revealed after that which is restraining him is removed. (We haven't made it that far yet, this day is still to come)


In Mormonism, the term "antichrist" refers to those who deny the divinity of Jesus Christ deny the Gospel, (Wait what? Which Gospel? surely they mean the BoM because even they deny the Gospel of the Bible to be true.) and oppose his faith. "It is a word used by John to describe one who would assume the guise of Christ, but in reality would be opposed to Christ (1 John 2: 18, 22; 1 John 4: 3-6; 2 John 1: 7)." In a broader sense Mormons believe that the antichrist, "is anyone or anything that counterfeits the true gospel or plan of salvation and that openly or secretly is set up in opposition to Christ. The great antichrist is Lucifer, but he has many assistants both as spirit beings and as mortals." (Book of Mormon: Jacob 7: 1-23, Alma 1: 2-16, Alma 30: 6-60 


I can't help but think they just described their own religion while explaining the antichrist theory. 

All of these above information can be found on wikis antichrist page. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antichrist

Granted, All of this could also be used to describe Jesus Christ himself.  But if you believe in the Bible then you would say this is not so. It boils down to opinion from there.

I just find it extremely naive and extraordinarily arrogant to believe you are 1. the one and only true church. 2. you are or are capable of being an equal to God and or his power.

Don't try to save my soul. Don't go baptizing my corpse. To be honest your church scares me. The idea that I got baptized as a child as a Mormon disturbs me. Like I can't undo it. I can't take it back, it's been done. Will this have consequences in my afterlife? I wouldn't think it to be fair or just to be consequential but who knows. For all I know it very well could have saved me, but I'm thinking not.

The Elders told me, "Pray and read and you will learn the truth. Ask God if the Church is true and he will reveal to you that it is." I promised I would follow their instructions and this is where I ended up. Just sayin.  

Mormon... The Bible.. And what I see

So the skinny on my up bringing is this: We were raised Mormon but not the "Every Sunday let's go to church" I drank sodas, mom n dad drank coffee... About the only thing we ever got out of it was the memorized primary songs, baptism, learning and repeating odd things. (My favorite is when I went to school telling all the black kids they were black because God cursed them! When I was in second grade)

Anyway, I dabble in it here and there. You tend to go back to your roots from now and then I think. My Mom and Dad no longer attend the church at all; my brother became a full on Christian (even opened his own "all are welcome" type church)  and became pretty anti Mormon, my other brother is.... an Atheist I guess. And then there's me, who doesn't really fit in here nor there.

Not too long ago I ran into some Elders of the church. I always greet them when I see them. I told them they are welcome in my home anytime. Even though I believe they are kinda nutty I've always felt they were some of the nicest people I've ever met. I've also quite enjoyed their company and debates. This time has been different. The Elders prefer meeting at the church instead of at my home, and they have brought a woman to join us. Last time we met the woman brought her husband as well. I wonder if this is because I'm a girl and they do not find it appropriate to meet with women who are alone at home. This is all fine with me; the more the merrier.

Our last meeting we talked about the church being "The one true church of Jesus Christ." I didn't realize it at the time, but I attacked one of their core beliefs, the foundation of which they stand upon. They kept saying "I believe that you want to come back to church. Just pray and read and you will begin to feel the Lord telling you that we are the one true church." and things of this nature. So I told them "I don't feel anything, I never have. I don't believe what you believe." And the topic went on......

"If you're making a smoothie you need all the ingredients or it's not a smoothie. That's how it is to get to heaven . That's what our church is. Other Churches just don't have all the ingredients and that's why we have the Book of Mormon" (1. They like to relate their teachings to personal information about you. I happen to be making a smoothie on their first visit. 2. This visit was like a week ago so I"m just jisting up what they said in my own words) I tell them "That's not what I believe at all! Read the Bible. God is "all powerful" and he is "the almighty" he demands that you worship him, that you obey him... it's all about him. Name one thing that suites everyone...." One of the Elders said "Air" and I thought that was a good answer but replied with a "Well yea, we all need air, but some people need inhalers too, or oxygen tanks." So another guy said "water" so I said "Yea we all need water too, but I prefer my water at room temperature where others might want it iced." Here is where I started to FEEL something: Tension. "There isn't anything that is one size fits all. We aren't made that way. What works for you isn't going to be what works for me. I might want different ingredients in my smoothie than you want in yours, but in the end... they are both smoothies and both healthy. I don't think God cares what church you go to as long as you are worshiping him, as long as you believe that you're doing what's right and what would please him. (obviously God isn't going to send you to hell because you should have known what was never taught! Or you should have chosen the one teaching over the other?) People learn differently, people react differently to different situations. All churches are different but they all boil down to being about God; which is what he wants. Being Mormon works for you, being Catholic works for them." In the end I think I stumped them a bit mixed in with the lack of time on our hands. They still disagreed with me and I still felt I made a very good point.

My next meeting is tomorrow. So today I had the Book of Moroni playing and I was listening on and off. Here is where I started to get a little freaked out... and this is the first time I've EVER felt like I was understanding something about this church. This is also the first time I've ever been freaked out by a religion.



The questions started to roll in. Casual stupid little details.... "Who the heck is King Benjamin?" Google is your friend :) ..... Nope nothing about this guy unless it pertains to the BoM that's kinda weird. SO ... "Where are these towns they keep talking about?" Google again.... "No one knows..." weird again. No historic evidence of these people. At least in the Bible you can find most of these places, records of the people, and (what I find to be significant) other religions seem to have similar teachings and or stories that collaborate with the Bible. Why isn't his the case with the BoM? So we dig some more. About a week ago my husband said something about Joseph Smiths witnesses retracting their statements and denying they ever witnessed anything! That crossed my mind and I thought "Well I wonder if he has any living children or grandchildren who are still members of the church. How do they feel about the church?"  Google again...... What I learned was this: He had many wives, somewhere between 25-35ish wives. One (possibly 2) as young as 14 (I"m sorry I can't leave this out. Even though the age thing was considered "normal" back then I still find this gross! Guys are just pervs in general and Joseph Smith was NO exception. I've never looked at a 14 year old BOY and thought "Omgosh hes so hot" He's still a child in my eyes. Why MEN think this is ok EVER is beyond me!) many of his wives were married to OTHER men. One wife PRETENDED to be married to someone else but was actually "married" to Joseph Smith. Anyway, I'm sure you know how to use google. Long story short this dude was scandalous. And the thoughts and questions continue.......

Somewhere along the line it crossed my mind "What do satanists believe?" .. ladedadeda.... (mhm I'm ADD)

(A quick note so you can follow where this is going. Mormons have the plan of salvation. At the end of this long "plan" you become a God over your own Earth. Again, Google is your friend if you need more info)

Here we go. So didn't Satan get cast out of Heaven because he was jealous of God and wanted to be powerful like him? He pretty much wanted freedom. (Oddly I've never read this part of the bible ha! but from my understanding that about sums it up) ok.... so... why would God be ok with the idea Mormons have about being Gods? Confuzled! Then it trickled down.... Being God, check. J.S. deceives people into believing he's all about "family values" and not a sex craving pervert (which is what I gathered from the documented testimonies of his wives)... check. Makes people believe he's a prophet.... check. I dunno... I haven't quite connected all of these dots just yet to form the picture, but this picture is starting to look more and more satanic like than anything else. I always thought the antichrist was going to be the Pope or something. But I'm thinking it's going to be one of these LDS prophets. I have to admit I'm a little nervous about going to my meeting tomorrow. Just thought I'd share and get some other opinions...

I'm just sharing my thoughts here. I don't mean to offend anyone. I'm ok with you being mormon or catholic, Christian or satanic or whatever it is that helps you out spiritually. It doesn't matter to me. Like I said, we are diverse. We are human. We are free to believe whatever we want. No one can take that from you because belief is not physical. You can't touch it. You can't see it. It's inside of you. Believe what you want, whatever is right to you.



(My husband wants me to add that Prophet Joseph Smith spoke to God through a crystal ball... he finds this quite amusing and important all at the same time)

Further Thoughts:::


I'm by no means saying that Mormons are active and knowingly satantic, or anything of the sort. What I'm saying is, I find it much more plausible that Joseph Smith was inspired by Satan rather than Jesus or God. Do current Mormonists believe this? Of course not! Are the Elders of the church that come knocking on your door secretly working for Satan? No! But they believe that Joseph Smith was true and that his teachings were honest. This is where I believe they are wrong. I believe J.S. has deceived thousands of people and he was the one who is in the wrong. Momonists today are innocent bystanders. They truly believe what they teach and what they do is right and in accordance to Gods will.

 God, according to the Bible, commands that we do not have sexual relations outside of marriage. That we do not have impure thoughts about others especially someone who belongs to someone else. Yet, Joseph Smith took other mens wives. He even went as far as concealing marriages and relationships... if it is Godly, why hide it? If it was Godly he would have been honest. Even if the Bom is true, and Joseph Smith was in the right; I couldn't bring myself to worship a God that brings pain to my family. "- Joseph Smith's personal secretary records that on May 22nd, 1843, Smith's first wife Emma found Joseph and Eliza Partridge secluded in an upstairs bedroom at the Smith home. Emma was devastated.
William Clayton's journal entry for 23 May (see Smith, 105-106)" (http://www.i4m.com/think/history/joseph_smith_sex.htm)

"Emma was devastated".....  This doesn't sound Godly at all. God wants us to love not hurt. I can't imagine all the pain he caused to the husbands of these women, to his first wife and quite possibly his other wives. I'll be honest, I've cheated on my husband, my husbands cheated on me. We've been through some rough times. There was even a time when I would say "Monogamy is not natural to humans so why do we do it?" and I struggled with being married and the rules of marriage. In the end I learned that we do it out of love. Natural or not we do it because we care more about the other person than we do our own instincts and selfish needs. I saw first hand what this behavior can do to a family. I saw how much I hurt my husband and felt the pain of it being done to me. I saw the sadness and pain in my daughters eyes as she watched her family fall apart, and I saw the confusion and emptiness in her life because her dad wasn't living at home anymore. Why would God command these hurtful things to happen? Did Joseph Smith stay Married to all of his wives? Did his first wife stay by his side? I don't know.... Even if she did I can't see her being happy while she did it. This makes me feel sad for them. I feel sad for all of them. 

As it turns out, my husband was right about it being important to include the fact that J.S. used a crystal ball to speak to God. Celtic Druids, seers, wizards, sorcerers, psychics, gypsies, fortune tellers, stage magicians, etc. used Crystal balls. These practices have widely been considered ungodly and even evil throughout the ages; yet Joseph Smith used this method. 

^{Antichrist is thought to be deceitful and not truthful; he will be a false prophet, he will make himself as (or like) the son of God and claim himself as King. (Early Christians & the Antichrist wiki) Didn't I just learn that J.S was deceitful? He claims to be a prophet? To top it off did he not believe that we will ultimate become Gods? Oo God=King? that's an opinion to make for yourself; But I see high resemblance here.} 

 Polycarp warned the Philippians that anyone who  preached false doctrine was an antichrist. The Mormons have piles and piles of doctrine made to their own beliefs. False doctrine? This seems to be the big question.
Paul writes that this Man of Sin will possess a number of characteristics. These include "sitting in the temple",(Don't Mormons have temples?) opposing himself against anything that is worshiped, claiming divine authority, (Wouldn't that be the same as their teachings of becoming Gods?) working all kinds of counterfeit miracles and signs, (Isn't that what J.S. was doing with his Crystal ball?) and doing all kinds of evil. Paul notes that "the mystery of lawlessness" (though not the Man of Sin himself) was working in secret already during his day and will continue to function until being destroyed on the Last Day. His identity is to be revealed after that which is restraining him is removed. (We haven't made it that far yet, this day is still to come)

In Mormonism, the term "antichrist" refers to those who deny the divinity of Jesus Christ deny the Gospel, (Wait what? Which Gospel? surely they mean the BoM because even they deny the Gospel of the Bible to be true.) and oppose his faith. "It is a word used by John to describe one who  would assume the guise of Christ, but in reality would be opposed to Christ (1 John 2: 18, 22; 1 John 4: 3-6; 2 John 1: 7)." In a broader sense Mormons believe that the antichrist, "is anyone or anything that counterfeits the true gospel or plan of salvation and that openly or secretly is set up in opposition to Christ. The great antichrist is Lucifer, but he has many assistants both as spirit beings and as mortals." (Book of Mormon: Jacob 7: 1-23, Alma 1: 2-16, Alma 30: 6-60 

I can't help but think they just described their own religion while explaining the antichrist theory. 

All of these above information can be found on wikis antichrist page. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antichrist

Granted, All of this could also be used to describe Jesus Christ himself.  But if you believe in the Bible then you would say this is not so. It boils down to opinion from there.

I just find it extremely naive and extraordinarily arrogant to believe you are 1. the one and only true church. 2. you are or are capable of being an equal to God and or his power.

Don't try to save my soul. Don't go baptizing my corpse. To be honest your church scares me. The idea that I got baptized as a child as a Mormon disturbs me. Like I can't undo it. I can't take it back, it's been done. Will this have consequences in my afterlife? I wouldn't think it to be fair or just to be consequential but who knows. For all I know it very well could have saved me, but I'm thinking not.

The Elders told me, "Pray and read and you will learn the truth. Ask God if the Church is true and he will reveal to you that it is." I promised I would follow their instructions and this is where I ended up. Just sayin.